See, to me the phone thing just showed me how far she'd go to win ... and how much Josh just *accepted* that about her, because he's *exactly* the same way. She pushes his cell phone in the stew, he manipulates a situation to get her fired. And what pisses each of them off about that stuff? That the other person *won*. Not the act in and of itself, but the winning. Their relationship is simply governed by different rules than normal people's, so it makes absolutely no sense for us to say that either of those actions was *bad*.

I don't know, I just find it utterly fascinating. And it fit in so well in the Turningverse, because after Sam and his pushing and all the guilt, Josh needed somebody who was going to *value* the darker and more questionable sides to him that Sam was all disapproving about. I've got other long-term fic interests, but I definitely wish more people were writing it.

I mean, I don't think I'd want to be friends with her, or anything, but I doubt I would want that with Josh, either. Even though I love him to pieces and have spent waaaaay too many hours of my life inside his sad little brain. :-)

-J