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out_thereI know the SN icon I want. I even want it enough to possibly make it when I get home tonight.
"My fandom is out of the mainstream"
I need to check "Bells and a Siren" to be sure of the quote, but Dan says it to his publicist (re: Felicity's timeslot).
(Of course, the reason I remember this episode has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with Casey's little rant about the French. Him and Dan are sitting, waiting to start the show, and Dan mentions that he's going to a French restaurant that night.
Casey, to Dan: "I like the French. I like their toast, I like their dressing, I like their fries. I like their maids. I like their kissing."
Dan: [can't remember the exact quote, but it's something like...] Right now, the image of you doing that is the last thing I need before I go on-air.)
But, the thing that amused me enough to post this entry was an old interview with Aaron Sorkin. Interesting interview, and basically the stuff I already knew (apart from the fact that he was writing S2 SN and S1 WW at the same time. That's interesting, and sounds like a really heavy workload.). But, still, a couple of things made me laugh.
There was a very well known, much awarded and justifiably awarded television director, probably the most well-known television director. ABC wanted him to direct the pilot and I met with him and clearly his instinct was also, "Well this is great, but it needs to be more like a sitcom. These two guys, these two anchors - one of them needs to be the neat guy, the other one needs to be the sloppy guy. One a gay guy, one a straight guy; one the fat guy, one the thin guy. It's got to be like that. And I said, "God, I don't know anything, I'm not in television. You're an incredible success and I'm sure you're right, but I'm not going to do that." And the network got very upset with me, that I had sent him packing.
Okay, I'm appreciating that Sorkin didn't try to go that route of extreme contrast, but still, the Pilot does set them up into easy to understand stereotypes (for very practical reasons), which tend to ease off as the show continues. Dan doesn't keep doing the show in his shorts, Casey stops being so up-tight (although, that was caused by tension from the divorce, so it's not as if it was a sudden change).
It's just a case of if you're looking at the Pilot, and dividing Dan and Casey into neat guy and sloppy guy, it's easily Casey and Dan, respectively. Likewise, for one gay guy and one straight guy, Casey's divorce, and hugging Dana, makes it kinda clear where he'd be. Then there's the mentions of "I don't need a cruise director" to Dan, Dan's love of "The Metropolitan Opera", Dan's loyalty to Casey and his mini-rant against Lisa
"My future is writing and anchoring a sports program with my partner, Casey McCall. Now, if it's here, it's here. If it's not, it's someplace else. For right now, I'm going to forget this conversation ever took place. "
"I've been here every day, Casey. Every day. And I've kept my mouth shut, because that's what you asked me to do. But if you'd have asked me, I'd have told you that Lisa is an angry, unhappy, punishing woman, and that in ten years there has never been a single moment that has suggest to me she has any affection for you at all."
It's just interesting that if you looked at it in that light, you could see it coded that way.
The other bit of Sorkin's interview that made me crack up?
"I pursued many of the offers - well, okay, I pursued one of the offers to revive "Sports Night" on HBO... The reason why I was interested in HBO was that I felt that HBO would give me a number of things that would be great - creative opportunities that we didn't have on a broadcast network. In other words, the full range of language and situations was going to be available to me on an episodic budget in which we could do a really good show. A network that already had a reputation for doing very good and innovative stuff, and that was getting the attention of critics and the public, and a thirteen episode season as opposed to a twenty-two episode season - in fact that would fit in nicely with the hiatus of West Wing. I would be minimizing the overlap time between the two shows and I would be doing as good a job as I possibly could on both of them."
Sports Night. On HBO. I'm sure a lot of you are smirking with me about this idea.
ETA: Since Genie asked about it a while ago, the "Peppy Casey" (*points to icon*), comes from Casey's annoyed griping in the Pilot:
"Dana, did you come in here to give me a pep talk? 'Cause if you came in here to give me a pep talk, can we assume that it already happened, that it worked and that I'm peppy?"
"My fandom is out of the mainstream"
I need to check "Bells and a Siren" to be sure of the quote, but Dan says it to his publicist (re: Felicity's timeslot).
(Of course, the reason I remember this episode has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with Casey's little rant about the French. Him and Dan are sitting, waiting to start the show, and Dan mentions that he's going to a French restaurant that night.
Casey, to Dan: "I like the French. I like their toast, I like their dressing, I like their fries. I like their maids. I like their kissing."
Dan: [can't remember the exact quote, but it's something like...] Right now, the image of you doing that is the last thing I need before I go on-air.)
But, the thing that amused me enough to post this entry was an old interview with Aaron Sorkin. Interesting interview, and basically the stuff I already knew (apart from the fact that he was writing S2 SN and S1 WW at the same time. That's interesting, and sounds like a really heavy workload.). But, still, a couple of things made me laugh.
There was a very well known, much awarded and justifiably awarded television director, probably the most well-known television director. ABC wanted him to direct the pilot and I met with him and clearly his instinct was also, "Well this is great, but it needs to be more like a sitcom. These two guys, these two anchors - one of them needs to be the neat guy, the other one needs to be the sloppy guy. One a gay guy, one a straight guy; one the fat guy, one the thin guy. It's got to be like that. And I said, "God, I don't know anything, I'm not in television. You're an incredible success and I'm sure you're right, but I'm not going to do that." And the network got very upset with me, that I had sent him packing.
Okay, I'm appreciating that Sorkin didn't try to go that route of extreme contrast, but still, the Pilot does set them up into easy to understand stereotypes (for very practical reasons), which tend to ease off as the show continues. Dan doesn't keep doing the show in his shorts, Casey stops being so up-tight (although, that was caused by tension from the divorce, so it's not as if it was a sudden change).
It's just a case of if you're looking at the Pilot, and dividing Dan and Casey into neat guy and sloppy guy, it's easily Casey and Dan, respectively. Likewise, for one gay guy and one straight guy, Casey's divorce, and hugging Dana, makes it kinda clear where he'd be. Then there's the mentions of "I don't need a cruise director" to Dan, Dan's love of "The Metropolitan Opera", Dan's loyalty to Casey and his mini-rant against Lisa
"My future is writing and anchoring a sports program with my partner, Casey McCall. Now, if it's here, it's here. If it's not, it's someplace else. For right now, I'm going to forget this conversation ever took place. "
"I've been here every day, Casey. Every day. And I've kept my mouth shut, because that's what you asked me to do. But if you'd have asked me, I'd have told you that Lisa is an angry, unhappy, punishing woman, and that in ten years there has never been a single moment that has suggest to me she has any affection for you at all."
It's just interesting that if you looked at it in that light, you could see it coded that way.
The other bit of Sorkin's interview that made me crack up?
"I pursued many of the offers - well, okay, I pursued one of the offers to revive "Sports Night" on HBO... The reason why I was interested in HBO was that I felt that HBO would give me a number of things that would be great - creative opportunities that we didn't have on a broadcast network. In other words, the full range of language and situations was going to be available to me on an episodic budget in which we could do a really good show. A network that already had a reputation for doing very good and innovative stuff, and that was getting the attention of critics and the public, and a thirteen episode season as opposed to a twenty-two episode season - in fact that would fit in nicely with the hiatus of West Wing. I would be minimizing the overlap time between the two shows and I would be doing as good a job as I possibly could on both of them."
Sports Night. On HBO. I'm sure a lot of you are smirking with me about this idea.
ETA: Since Genie asked about it a while ago, the "Peppy Casey" (*points to icon*), comes from Casey's annoyed griping in the Pilot:
"Dana, did you come in here to give me a pep talk? 'Cause if you came in here to give me a pep talk, can we assume that it already happened, that it worked and that I'm peppy?"
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Date: 2004-02-16 04:55 pm (UTC)Re:
Date: 2004-02-16 05:06 pm (UTC)There aren't a lot of SN galleries up, because I've looked and looked and not found much. The good news is that Celli has her screencaps up on her site. Just don't go yelling about the link to loudly, because I'm not sure if her bandwidth will take a huge crowd. *g*
Anyway, the link is here: http://www.fanfic101.com/screencaps/
And there's *hoards* of great screencaps there. (Plus, if you have a good 'net connection, it's worth checking out the animated gifs.)
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Date: 2004-02-16 05:19 pm (UTC)Re:
Date: 2004-02-16 05:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-02-16 05:07 pm (UTC)Considering the fact that I'm the one with the DVD, you're freaky. *thinks* I think I've created a monster.
In a good way, of course. *bg*
And yeah, the first time I saw the French ep, I had to rewind and go back to watch it a few times, squeeling in delilght. Hehehe...
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Date: 2004-02-16 05:13 pm (UTC)Hee! Well, why do you think I know the ep title? You need to know which one to skim to... *g*
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Date: 2004-02-16 07:32 pm (UTC)Hehehe.... too true.
BTW, don't know if you've read this, not slash, not that much Dan Casey, but funny as hell: For the Record (http://www.lame-obsessions.net/eFiction/viewstory.php?sid=7)
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Date: 2004-02-17 01:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-02-17 03:03 pm (UTC)It's just... it's a cosmic joke, it really is. (It's like the punchline to how could SN be any slashier?)
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Date: 2004-02-17 02:05 am (UTC)Re:
Date: 2004-02-17 03:00 pm (UTC)*remembers you should be gracious in victory*
Um, I mean... good. *g*
But, if you like, want any recs, or further pimping, feel free to yell. (Out of curiousity, what are you reading?)
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Date: 2004-02-18 01:55 am (UTC)Re:
Date: 2004-02-18 02:23 am (UTC)