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In no particular order, these are fic that [livejournal.com profile] oxoniensis should read. Consider it two fandoms for the price of one. *g*

First of all, I advise everyone to stop what you're doing and read What Kind of Crossover Has It Been? I know most people have read it before, but it still stands up as a wonderful gen crossover fic. You don't need to know canon from both WW and SN, but you'll spot the little insider references to which show you follow. Lovely fic, as good as Sorkin himself.

A Phenomenally Bad Idea by Ryo Sen.
Like a lot of her work, this is a Josh/Donna fic. (You're surprised I read it, aren't you Signe? *g* It's the good snarky, drunk Josh voice that I really enjoyed.) However, it does feature a lovely scene with Dan and Casey. The crossover is pretty seamless and works with the rest of the fic. (Background info you may want to know: Janel Moloney also played a wardrobe assistant on SN. Hence, Dan probably looked dazedly at Donna because of the strong resemblance.)

One Might Say is a Dan/Josh piece set in Washington after the MS scandal broke. It's a nice smut-filled piece, showing their similarities well.

Because both [livejournal.com profile] dammitcarl and [livejournal.com profile] hopsakee rock mightily, I have the link to that Josh/Dan fic I mentioned earlier, Echoes by amj.
It's long, involving and entracing, and it really *gets* Josh and Dan. It can be hard to follow a fic when you're not familar with half of the cast, but you barely notice it in this story. It's a great crossover fic to hook you into a new fandom because there's a great deal of description of both the main characters and the background ones. (I still don't quite buy the Sam in this fic, but it's a very *minor* bitch about a a very satisfying story.)

And, last but certainly not least, my personal favourite sorkin crossover, You Just Have to be Chocolate Cake by K. Yay!
It's Sam/Dan and it just... works. Really well. I don't think you need to know the SN backstory/canonical references to get it, but it does add a further layer. It's a great representation of Dan and Casey, and it's very close to how I personally see Sam Seaborn. (Yes, I'm a Sam gal. I take these things to heart.) I can't quite sum up why I like this characterisation, but it just rings true to me, every little detail.


In the interest of full disclosure, I also came across a couple WW/SN crossovers I hadn't read, but I'll link them anyway. Read at your own peril, dudes.

I also came across a Danny/Donna fic, Mend. Haven't tried it because I'm not a big fan of the het, but could be good. *shrugs* If I was bored.

New York State of Mind By Nomi seems to feature Josh and Sam vacationing in New York. I have to admit that it hit one of my major J/S turn-offs, so I didn't read it. Sam should never seriously refer to Josh by a nickname, and when the fic has him using "J", I want to scrtch my eyes out with a rusty spork. (The only character who could ever get away with calling Josh that is Amy, as "Special J" was referred to as a college nickname. Even then, she doesn't use it regularly, so it would need to be a college-aged fic for me to accept it.)

Date: 2004-01-12 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laylee.livejournal.com
A Phenomenally Bad Idea by Ryo Sen.

I read this story about four years ago, when I was just getting into WW and hadn't even heard of SN. I think this story is why I started watching SN when it finally came to Australia, becuase even the snippet of Dan and Casey in it made such an impression.

On another note, Ryo Sen, Jo March and co. write the most sublime stories. I urge everyone to read them all, whether they are Josh/Donna shippers of not. Their ploting, political detail and characterisation are superb. And they write everything from down and dirty sex to the most heart wrenching angst. Just read, okay!

Date: 2004-01-12 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
I'm not a big Donna/Josh shipper. I go through phases, but generally I'm a Sam gal at heart, so I'll go for the Sam stories ore often than not. That being said, I thouroughly enjoyed their Partyverse series. As you said, "Their ploting, political detail and characterisation are superb".

Plus, it forever burned the phrase "Joshalike" into my brain. I have corrupted and used that phrase for many fandoms. *bg*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:09 pm (UTC)
celli: a woman and a man holding hands, captioned "i treasure" (SN boys)
From: [personal profile] celli
Mend is a *fantastic* story. I reread it every couple of months (did even before I became a Sports Night fan) and cry every damn time.

Date: 2004-01-12 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Is it a good Sam? Is there much Sam?

Oh, screw it. I'll end up reading it now anyway. *g*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:23 pm (UTC)
celli: a woman and a man holding hands, captioned "i treasure" (SN boys)
From: [personal profile] celli
*laughs* There's some Sam, and I really liked the way she handled his characterization.

btw, Perri, the author, is one of my oldest friends, just so you know. I'm completely biased. *g*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
*laughs* There's some Sam, and I really liked the way she handled his characterization.

Oh, dude, that's a deal maker. It's going on the to read list.

btw, Perri, the author, is one of my oldest friends, just so you know. I'm completely biased. *g*

*shruggs* Honestly? Doesn't make any difference to me. I find that I know quite a few of the non-SN authors I rec, just because that's how I come across the fic. I know you wouldn't rec it if it *sucked*.

Date: 2004-01-12 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laylee.livejournal.com
Mend is another one I read before I knew about Sports Night and really enjoyed. Although when I reread it last year, I couldn't help thinking, "No, no, Casey should be with Danny!" I guess all the slash had finally gotten to me.

Date: 2004-01-12 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
I guess all the slash had finally gotten to me.

Hee! It tends to do that.

I'll have to read it sometime... although, I should probably look over all the Dan/Rebecca episodes just to remind myself that Dan is canonically capable of falling head over feet for a woman. *g*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laylee.livejournal.com
Just been watching them and he really is 'Dan, doer of good things where women are concerned'. Even his stalkerish tendances aren't that bad ;~)

Date: 2004-01-12 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Aw! StalkerDan's cute. Somewhat worrisome, and might be slightly irritating to be Rebecca, but cute nonetheless. Especially in the way that he gets to know all of her co-worker's names.

Heh. He's the anti-Sam Donovan. *g*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laylee.livejournal.com
Although, I have to say, I wouldn't mind being pestered by Dan Rydell (or even Josh Charles) whilst at work :~)

Date: 2004-01-12 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Well, it couldn't possibly result in me doing any *less* work! *g*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laylee.livejournal.com
I don't think either of us have done much at all today.

Date: 2004-01-12 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laylee.livejournal.com
I also read a Dan/Krycek story once that was part of a longer X-Files series. Can't for the life of me remember where to find it, so if anyone has any ideas...

Date: 2004-01-12 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Not a clue. But then again, not an XF fan either.

Date: 2004-01-13 03:30 pm (UTC)
ext_1770: @ _jems_ (Gattaca Irene by oxoniensis)
From: [identity profile] oxoniensis.livejournal.com
Ah, you're so subtle in your attempts to pimp a fandom to me!! *g*

I'm going to save all the links, and probably just read the first one tonight ('cos I rather like Josh/Donna - kind of my third choice Josh pairing after Josh/Sam (of course) and Josh/Joey)

I haven't managed to download a Sports Night episode yet, and I'm going to be keeping my computer free to bit torrent Asylum soon. Getting nervous already. And I'm clearly not going to finish my Shattered coda before it's jossed! Darn.

Oh, and I joined that West Wing icon community you told me to join! Aren't I a good obedient little girl. *g*

Date: 2004-01-13 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Ah, you're so subtle in your attempts to pimp a fandom to me!! *g*

Yep, that's me. Subtle as a brick... well, as a brick wall falling on your head.

I'm going to save all the links, and probably just read the first one tonight ('cos I rather like Josh/Donna - kind of my third choice Josh pairing after Josh/Sam (of course) and Josh/Joey)

Hey, check out the Five Ways Josh didn't get laid fic. I rec'ed it sometime yesterday. You'd enjoy it.

I haven't managed to download a Sports Night episode yet, and I'm going to be keeping my computer free to bit torrent Asylum soon. Getting nervous already. And I'm clearly not going to finish my Shattered coda before it's jossed! Darn.

I'm just Not Thinking About It. That's how I'm getting through. Well, that and they've started playing the S2 eps on TV again... (Yay!)

Oh, and I joined that West Wing icon community you told me to join! Aren't I a good obedient little girl. *g*

*pats Signe* Good girl, good girl.

Heh. Meanwhile, I'm just enjoying all the nice Sam pics... *leers at Sam*

Date: 2004-01-13 03:48 pm (UTC)
ext_1770: @ _jems_ (Buffy Beautiful World by _jems_)
From: [identity profile] oxoniensis.livejournal.com
Hey, check out the Five Ways Josh didn't get laid fic. I rec'ed it sometime yesterday. You'd enjoy it.

Oh yes, I saw that but I'd forgotten about it. It's not spoilery for season 4 is it?

Date: 2004-01-13 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Um... *thinks*

Damn. It might be. The fifth section (Marbury/Josh) is a little spoilery (not big spoilers, not even spoilers needed to understand the section, but vague mentions).

The fourth section (Joey/Josh) is... Hmmmm... I need to check when it's set. I'm honestly not sure if it was S3 or S4, it was just everyone getting drunk and I didn't think too much about it.

I'm checking now (http://www.jennielyn.com/lookingglass/fiveways.html)...

Nope, the fourth section is post "Two Cathedrals". The fifth section is port "Dead Irish Writers" (so nice of the author to mention which ep each comes after *g*), so that is S4 (I think...?). But honestly, it's just not that spoilery.

Well, the only spoiler is that Lord Marbury returns to the country, and that Amy's around (mentioned briefly). I'm sure you know that much already.

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