SN Links

Aug. 8th, 2005 02:23 pm
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So, since I showed [livejournal.com profile] slashybits, [livejournal.com profile] mcicioni and [livejournal.com profile] vissy SN, I think I'm under a moral obligation to pimp the fandom to them.

Fannish Info

First of all, I'd check out [livejournal.com profile] scrunchy's Dan/Casey essay on [livejournal.com profile] ship_manifesto, It's Not Against the Law to Be Vaguely Gay. It's a lovely description of both guys and of slashy moments through the show (and is far more eloquent and logical than my wild, flailing attempts to answer questions).

I also have a rough Casey timeline if that helps. (I like knowing details.)

And there's a SN intro at [livejournal.com profile] crack_van here that summarises the show and the characters.

The Fiction

When it comes to SN, I tend to get my fix via [livejournal.com profile] inthetallgrass which is a fiction community that features stories from West Wing and Sports Night (both shows were written/created by Aaron Sorkin, which is why they're listed together).

The fandom used to have a main archive, but it's hosted by Trickster, and doesn't seem to be working these days. (It always seems to have troubles.) Hence, I tend to get my fix through recs and author sites.

Polyamorous Recs is a good rec page that has a lot of fandoms and it was my guide to SN when I first got into the show. (That's a link to their SN page of stories.)

... and typing this entry up would have been a lot quicker if I didn't stop to read To Casey On His Thirty-Fifth Birthday (which still makes me sniffle) and A Sandwich is a Transitory Thing (which is funny and delightful) ...

Anyway, recs. The other recs I'd point out would be [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine who does some interesting multi-fandom recs (but the tag function doesn't seem to be working, so I can't give you a direct link to her SN recs) and [livejournal.com profile] makesmewannadie who recommends quite a few SN stories too (this should be the appropriate link).

There's also [livejournal.com profile] crack_van for SN recs, made by a wide variety of fans, which, huh, proves that there are at least 102 SN fics worth reading. But I'd start with Polyamorous Recs as a better way to get a feel for the series.

Also, I know that [livejournal.com profile] in_the_bottle was joking about how much I'd personally written, so I'm including a link to my stuff. A lot of it is short, pointless stories, but there's quite a few I'm proud of, too.

ETA: It just occured to me that we didn't watch the episode where Dan and Casey have to start the show in their shirts, jackets and boxers. I totally should have showed that.

*points to icon*

Date: 2005-08-08 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] texasbek.livejournal.com
Great post. Sticking this one in my memories!

Date: 2005-08-08 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Cool!

I tend to keep a memories section like that too (SN notes), because there's nothing like reading something that points out the big links for a fandom, and then losing it.

Date: 2005-08-08 10:12 am (UTC)
ext_3751: (Danny-with-a-gun)
From: [identity profile] phoebesmum.livejournal.com
Of course, I hate all those rec sites with a deadly hatred, but I'm just bitter, don't mind me.

... you know, I actually don't like Napoleon's Battle Plan that much. The whole no-trousers thing is one of those SN moments that's, to me, too silly and laboured to be amusing. Right up there with 'secular' and 'non-secular'. Good lord, I'm such a wee iconoclast.

Date: 2005-08-08 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Of course, I hate all those rec sites with a deadly hatred, but I'm just bitter, don't mind me.

Well, then, be useful. What are the rec sites that you'd suggest?

As for Napoleon's Battle Plan, I like it. I like it from the extremely shallow perspective of seeing the boys in their boxers, and I like it because of the way that Dan and Casey interract, the way that Dan knows what's best, the way that Casey seems so relieved when someone else has made the hard decisions (re: telling Dana).

Date: 2005-08-08 11:15 pm (UTC)
ext_3751: (Josh - Little City)
From: [identity profile] phoebesmum.livejournal.com
There aren't any rec sites that rec me, so I hate them all!

Date: 2005-08-09 07:43 am (UTC)
ext_3751: (Josh - MFH)
From: [identity profile] phoebesmum.livejournal.com
Easy for you to say, you get recced!

I'd recommend joining the Yahoo SN slash mailing list (http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/slashsn) (it doesn't have heavy activity, so it won't clog up anyone's mailbox), and read through the fic in the old messages. That way you're not reliant on anyone else's personal prejudices. There's a lot of good stuff on there you won't find recced anywhere - all [livejournal.com profile] laylee's longer fiction, for one thing. Also, *cough* mine. Which, all my personal prejudices notwithstanding, I think sucks a whole lot less than some other stuff that's around.

Date: 2005-08-09 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Oh, that's a good point. I'm on the ml, so that's another good resource for new fans.

As for recs, I think that it's a pure level of quantity for me, not so much quality. I've had about three or four fics recced, and I can promise you that's a fairly small percentage of total stories written.

Date: 2005-08-08 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innle.livejournal.com
I've read all the fic (I'm odd), and one day - one day I'll see the show. Heh.

Date: 2005-08-08 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
*laughs* Okay, I can't argue against that. (I went through a stage of reading a lot of Gundam Wing fiction, and never saw more than five minutes of the actual show. I have no high ground to stand upon.)

If you're interested, there's this site (http://members.aol.com/Graecia13/trans.html) that has transcripts from some of the episodes (in case you want to read the snarky banter) and there's also summaries on TWOP.

Date: 2005-12-08 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynross.livejournal.com
The fandom used to have a main archive, but it's hosted by Trickster, and doesn't seem to be working these days.

In fairness, it's not ultimately a Trickster issue. There was a server crash at one point several years ago, and some hosted sites, like the SN archive, were never re-uploaded by their maintainers, for various reasons.

Date: 2005-12-08 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Huh, oh, I didn't know that. Interesting.

I just knew that it didn't work, and then it did (and there was much rejoicing) and then it didn't again.

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