TW 2.13

Apr. 8th, 2008 07:51 pm
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Dear TW 2.13,

You moved a little fast, I thought you were exciting and fun, and now I feel so betrayed. You were so fun and awesome at the start, had witty quips and an adventurous spirit. You had a slightly dangerous but sexy edge to you.

Then, halfway through, it got a bit too dangerous for me. You got a little violent, a little mean, and it left me worried.

Worried for good reason, as it turned out.

I kept thinking that you'd change your mind, that you'd remember that fun, lively soul you had when we met. But you didn't. You broke my heart. Then you hung around long enough to make my chest ache and when you left, all I wanted to do was cry.

I really loved you, but I don't think I can see you again for a little while. I think we both need space to heal.

Date: 2008-04-08 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-bottle.livejournal.com
I really loved you, but I don't think I can see you again for a little while. I think we both need space to heal.

Yeah. I haven't been back to watch it either. I figure 25 April is soon enough.

Date: 2008-04-08 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Well... I saw it without Mum. So there's a chance I may be watching it again (but I might try to plead off watching tonight... except there's nothing on TV tonight so maybe not).

But. Oh. I flicked, I checked the time! They had like 7 minutes left when the nuclear reactor went off. I was so sure TW was a "nobody really dies" show and then, oh, they hurt me. It works wonderfully for the narrative, but ouch for my little heart.

Date: 2008-04-08 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-bottle.livejournal.com
I was sure they were gonna save Tosh after Jack found her, but noooo... :(

OTOH, I've re-watched DW about 4 times now. Heee!

Date: 2008-04-08 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydia-petze.livejournal.com
I was spoiled (my own fault, I clicked where I shouldn't have). Didn't help.

Date: 2008-04-08 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
*understands* I was spoiled for tara's death in BtVS and it still hit like a Mack truck.

I just... TW is my big gay scifi show. People aren't supposed to die!

Date: 2008-04-09 05:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wemblee.livejournal.com
BLESS YOU FOR SAYING THIS.

Can, like, nobody die on shows like these? Ever? I would like that. ESCAPISM IS GOOD AND WE SHOULD NOT BE ASHAMED. *clings*

Date: 2008-04-08 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] binka-boo.livejournal.com
i love TW. I find it terribly amusing.

but i loved 2.13 because i found it terribly emotionally real.

kudos to them for getting the balance right.

Date: 2008-04-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
*nods* It's... more than I expected, honestly. Don't gtet me wrong, I love my BIG GAY SCIFI SHOW but it's not where I expect the emotional ouchies to really hit. And that one... oh, it hurt. Not the deaths so much as the mourning scenes of Gwen, Jack and Ianto afterwards.

And strangely enough, despite the hurt, I still loved the episode more than i can say.

Date: 2008-04-11 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] binka-boo.livejournal.com
i did love how they explained Tosh's appearance in Dr Who S1.

also, just discovered Tosh was in UK Avenue Q!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJCU4xf5IJE

Date: 2008-04-14 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
I actually knew that! Only because John Barrowman hosted some BBC radio thing on musicals and played one of her songs (a nice voice, too!)

Date: 2008-04-08 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com
It was so weird because I was completely spoiled for everything and was totally fine until Tosh said, 'You're breaking my heart.'

Also, I'm so in the mood for happy, fluffy post-2x13 fanfic but a: I don't even know how one would go about doing that and b: everyone else is writing h/c or total angst. :(

Date: 2008-04-08 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
I'm in the mood for pre2.13 fluffly porn, or post 2.13 Gwen-OIanto-Jack mourning fic. I don't know which to start first.

Date: 2008-04-08 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilexa.livejournal.com
See, I can easily stop at episode 12 and la la la la season finale no episode 13! la la la la.

I'm going with episode 13 didn't happen. Or the radiation some how put Owen back to normal, and he'll show up fine, full of blood and ready to shag the women of Wales.

Um, Tosh? Risen Mitten?

Date: 2008-04-08 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
*clings to your ideas*

Or, more correctly, I foresee me writing a lot of "set mid-S2" fic. I mean, just yesterday afternoon I was working on the set up for Jack/Ianto/Ianto smut (not a typo but a "fun alien devices" type idea) and had mentions of Tosh and Owen and...

Yeah. I'll be writing a lot of S2 fic.

(Mind you, I also have the urget o sit down and write post-2.13 fic, with Jack and Ianto and Gwen bonding and mourning -- and, yeah, I like the trio of those three so I would be endlessly fascinated by them balancing out each other's emotional states -- and Rhys in the background, making sure everyone eats the food tat Ianto organises and then making sure Ianto's okay when he accidentally makes five coffees and freezes standing in front of the coffee machine.)

I mean, I'm full of love for this episode, but it was... Awesome, awesome, awesome, danger, still pretty awesome, then HEARTBREAK! I wasn't prepared for that.

Date: 2008-04-08 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilexa.livejournal.com
Yes, I am very smart.

Smallville totally did this to me. Any fic I wrote or really enjoyed tended to diverge from canon somewhere around season 3, when they made Lex crazy. *heartbreak*

And YES! Exit Wounds really is awesome, but MAN. I haven't been able to go back and watch any of it.

Date: 2008-04-09 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
(Mind you, I also have the urge to sit down and write post-2.13 fic, with Jack and Ianto and Gwen bonding and mourning -- and, yeah, I like the trio of those three so I would be endlessly fascinated by them balancing out each other's emotional states -- and Rhys in the background, making sure everyone eats the food that Ianto organises and then making sure Ianto's okay when he accidentally makes five coffees and freezes standing in front of the coffee machine.)

I would love to read this.

I could see Rhys just sort of... coming by, bringing them donuts or something some morning & ending up staying around, unofficial Torchwood emotional support.

Date: 2008-04-09 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
Rhys would be the one pointing out that hovering in the Hub is plain macabre and talking them all into staying a few nights with him and Gwen. ("Look," he said to Jack, "Gwen'll sleep better knowing you're close by. Do us a favour and come back with us.")

Date: 2008-04-08 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
It chopped my heart up into little pieces. I thought it was very well done - they both went out heroes, and it was extremely touching - but it was heartbreaking.

Date: 2008-04-08 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
I thought it was very well done - they both went out heroes, and it was extremely touching - but it was heartbreaking.

Storywise, I really liked it. It worked. It made TW as a show more convincing. But... oh. It still hurt.

Date: 2008-04-08 05:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-04-08 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
*pets you*

Date: 2008-04-08 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ekaterinn.livejournal.com
*hugs* I was so shocked by the end. I was half-expecting Owen to die, i think, because he was in limbo. But Tosh? *cries* I didn't realise how much I loved Tosh (and related to her) until she said "You're breaking my heart" and I felt like I was bleeding out. *sniffs* It'll be okay, right?

Date: 2008-04-08 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com
I was the same. I flicked on the DVD controls to go, "Oh, look, thee's 7 minutes left. They're going to save Tosh and Owen because no-one really dies in TW" and then they didn't. They used that extra time to show reactions shots and break my heart.

I mean, from a narrative place, I *get* it. If everyone in the team comes up against mortal danger and always gets away with it, the danger isn't really... that dangerous. Someone has to die. And killing two beloved characters sends the definite message that "this is dangerous, people" and that not everything can be fixed.

But, oh, chest ache.

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